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	<title>Comments on: Clay Shirky&#8217;s &#8220;second great age of patronage,&#8221; foundations, and journalism.</title>
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		<title>By: Non-Profit Journalism in Central America &#171; New Media Journalism</title>
		<link>http://maimonidesladder.com/2009/07/19/clay-shirkys-second-great-age-of-patronage-foundations-and-journalism/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Non-Profit Journalism in Central America &#171; New Media Journalism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] These trends have inspired a wealth of analysis and punditry. “Nonprofit investigative journalism outfits are breaking new ground. Can they sustain themselves?” asks Jill Drew in the Columbia Journalism Review. Or an entire hour-long Diane Rehm Show dedicated to “Not-for-Profit Journalism.” In the American Journalism Review: “The Nonprofit Explosion.” On Radio Open Source: “$30-billion to save journalism.” At the International Journalists Network: Investigative Journalism 2.0. Perhaps the most catchy title: “All the news that’s fit to fund” by John Honderich. And what I believe is the best analysis of non-profit journalism I’ve read so far, Steve Katz’s dissection of “Clay Shirky’s ’second great age of patronage,’ foundations, and journalism.” [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] These trends have inspired a wealth of analysis and punditry. “Nonprofit investigative journalism outfits are breaking new ground. Can they sustain themselves?” asks Jill Drew in the Columbia Journalism Review. Or an entire hour-long Diane Rehm Show dedicated to “Not-for-Profit Journalism.” In the American Journalism Review: “The Nonprofit Explosion.” On Radio Open Source: “$30-billion to save journalism.” At the International Journalists Network: Investigative Journalism 2.0. Perhaps the most catchy title: “All the news that’s fit to fund” by John Honderich. And what I believe is the best analysis of non-profit journalism I’ve read so far, Steve Katz’s dissection of “Clay Shirky’s ’second great age of patronage,’ foundations, and journalism.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m guest blogging over at Free Press this week &#171; Maimonides&#8217; Ladder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I&#8217;m guest blogging over at Free Press this week &#171; Maimonides&#8217; Ladder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jeff Jarvis, prostat&#8230; on Sontag,&#160;reconsideredRick Cohen on Clay Shirky&#8217;s &#8220;sec&#8230;Cato Unbound &#187;&#8230; on Clay Shirky&#8217;s &#8220;sec&#8230;Tom Lucci on A week on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis, prostat&hellip; on Sontag,&nbsp;reconsideredRick Cohen on Clay Shirky&#8217;s &#8220;sec&hellip;Cato Unbound &raquo;&hellip; on Clay Shirky&#8217;s &#8220;sec&hellip;Tom Lucci on A week on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Cohen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve:  You&#039;re raised important issues that I&#039;m only just now getting around to addressing.  There are a number of problems with the foundation model that even larger foundation-funded efforts such as what the Times is proposing or some of the smaller investigative units you cited will encounter.  Foundations are very thin-skinned about writing and analysis that touches on their areas of interest, not to mention specifically on themselves.  It doesn&#039;t require a foundation telling an entity not to cover something, it becomes a matter of self-censorship, you know which foundations tend toward hypersensitivity and when to sidestep the topics that might jeopardize a renewal grant.  I don&#039;t think that the philanthropic sector which is not a model of openness and transparency (see the controversies regarding the foundations affiliated with state universities)is automatically a good fit with journalism that might have as one of its targets the control and distribution of tax exempt capital by grantmaking foundations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:  You&#8217;re raised important issues that I&#8217;m only just now getting around to addressing.  There are a number of problems with the foundation model that even larger foundation-funded efforts such as what the Times is proposing or some of the smaller investigative units you cited will encounter.  Foundations are very thin-skinned about writing and analysis that touches on their areas of interest, not to mention specifically on themselves.  It doesn&#8217;t require a foundation telling an entity not to cover something, it becomes a matter of self-censorship, you know which foundations tend toward hypersensitivity and when to sidestep the topics that might jeopardize a renewal grant.  I don&#8217;t think that the philanthropic sector which is not a model of openness and transparency (see the controversies regarding the foundations affiliated with state universities)is automatically a good fit with journalism that might have as one of its targets the control and distribution of tax exempt capital by grantmaking foundations.</p>
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		<title>By: Cato Unbound &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Would We Craft a Subsidy?</title>
		<link>http://maimonidesladder.com/2009/07/19/clay-shirkys-second-great-age-of-patronage-foundations-and-journalism/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cato Unbound &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Would We Craft a Subsidy?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and of subsidy. (And let me cop to Mamonides Ladder&#8217;s complaint, quite correct, that I oversimplified the landscape of subsidy in my original post.) These new forms could involve anything from making it easier for virtual [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and of subsidy. (And let me cop to Mamonides Ladder&#8217;s complaint, quite correct, that I oversimplified the landscape of subsidy in my original post.) These new forms could involve anything from making it easier for virtual [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura McClure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a lot of really interesting stuff to chew on in this post, steve!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lot of really interesting stuff to chew on in this post, steve!</p>
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		<title>By: stevenkatz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Bob. Feels to me like we are at the very beginning of that process. I can see the logic of foundations playing an oversized role for the time being - things changing so rapidly and journalism on such shaky ground for the moment. But long term? Don&#039;t see it. The question I guess is how long the &quot;long term&quot; is going to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob. Feels to me like we are at the very beginning of that process. I can see the logic of foundations playing an oversized role for the time being &#8211; things changing so rapidly and journalism on such shaky ground for the moment. But long term? Don&#8217;t see it. The question I guess is how long the &#8220;long term&#8221; is going to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Calo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Calo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help but think that this idea that &#039;patrons&#039; will allow reporters to maintain their special status as heroes of democracy is a kind of self-delusion. We&#039;ve lost the audience, we don&#039;t have the marketing smarts to win it back. We don&#039;t even have the editorial product to win it back. We&#039;re not a particularly creative bunch. I&#039;m sure that the Pacific garbage patch story will please enviros, but it&#039;s a story that&#039;s been reported in one form or another over the last ten years, and I hardly think that we will reach a tipping point because of it. 

Rather than looking for one great grant to pay our salaries, we ought to bring same intensity to the search for a real market solution: one that pays actual salaries over the long term; one that rewards creativity rather than earnestness, and the social values of one foundation or another, one billionaire or another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that this idea that &#8216;patrons&#8217; will allow reporters to maintain their special status as heroes of democracy is a kind of self-delusion. We&#8217;ve lost the audience, we don&#8217;t have the marketing smarts to win it back. We don&#8217;t even have the editorial product to win it back. We&#8217;re not a particularly creative bunch. I&#8217;m sure that the Pacific garbage patch story will please enviros, but it&#8217;s a story that&#8217;s been reported in one form or another over the last ten years, and I hardly think that we will reach a tipping point because of it. </p>
<p>Rather than looking for one great grant to pay our salaries, we ought to bring same intensity to the search for a real market solution: one that pays actual salaries over the long term; one that rewards creativity rather than earnestness, and the social values of one foundation or another, one billionaire or another.</p>
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